User talk:TerraFrost

Welcome!

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Microsoft Campus Agreement

ha, sorry about the late welcome, i didn't really check how long you'd been on. I listed it on pages needing expansion because I think it is a good article. I was thinking along the lines of benefits for the campus and microsoft. Now mostly it has student centered data. Unfortunately I don't have much info about the reasons for signing it as I also mostly come at it from a student pov. Solitude also added a list of participating schools, so that's good.

I can be of more help on your other question though :). Go to "Preferences", then "User data" then "Your nickname", there you can change your nickname display for signatures to whatever you'd like, and add links. That is also how some people have the little pictures, different color names and things. It doesn't change your actual username just the text that gets added with you do the ~~~ thing. - [[User:Cohesion|cohesion ☎]] 08:32, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)

sg episode standard

actually the episodes "the Tok'ra" are both on one page as well (go see).

the standard is that if two episodes have the same name then they go in one article (used ubiquitously, and decided early on in the wikiproject's inception [discussion probably now archived]).

so "The Eye" is seperate to "The Storm", "Avalon" (ps 1 and 2) are in one article and "Origin" in another, and likewise "The Seige" should refer to all three parts.-- Alfakim -- talk 02:28, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD Google Policy

Usually, I'll vote "Delete" if there are under hits on the subject. To merit a "Keep" vote, an article must have over 200 hits and must also be notable according to WP:N (and related pages such as WP:WEB and WP:BIO). Voting "Redirect" is if the article merits a "Delete" but is closely related to a subject that has substantial amount of content. I should include this in my policy...hm. Kala ni ^[talk] 19:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe

I nearly burst out laughing when i saw your addition to me. Shahmask

pratical joke

While I do not believe that you have to remove it, I would like to ask that you do, seeing as it is very irritating to most Wikipedians. Thanks you. American Patriot 1776 18:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I think it is rather presumptious of you to presume to speak on behalf of most wikipedians, but whatever. It's been removed. :\ TerraFrost 19:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure where you meant to put this...

... but this edit of yours was to the talk page for discussing the Village pump; I suspect you meant to put it on one of the six village pump pages, since it is not about the VP. - Jmabel | Talk 21:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the tip! i've placed it in a more appropraite location and deleted my comments on that talk page TerraFrost 00:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User page

Nice user page. __earth ^(Talk) 10:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's my attempt at a slightly less annoying practical joke, heh :) TerraFrost 20:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The One Ring Article

You thought my starting paragraph overplayed the power of the ring. I wrote all of that section Powers of the Ring and no one has really bothered to change it except for minor grammar corrections. I admit, I got the illusions of the ring mixed up with what it actually does. I believe the rest after that is fairly accurate, though. Feel free to change it to something more accurate that reflects what the ring can do.--24.130.125.164 15:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikification of Apothecary on James Kim article

Hi and thanks for your comment. I probably should have put this in the discussion page before just unwikifying it, so I understand your concern. I removed it because 1) Apothecary is a common word which should be known by anyone familiar with the English language. We can't link every word just because some people might not know its meaning. Articles would have every other word linked. Those who don't know the meaning of words can look them up themselves. 2) The Church Street Apothecary does not even fit the definition of an Apothecary, which is essentially a pharmacy or drug store that prepares and dispenses prescripton drugs. The Church Street Apothecary, according to its own website is, "a provider of holistic, organic, and international health and beauty products for the entire family." That is not an apothecary.

I do understand that there is still an issue with possible other readers not knowing what an apothecary is and also it might be useful to clarify this. So I'd suggest we modify the article something like this: "The Kims owned the Church Street Apothecary, a retail estblishment in San Francisco specialzing in holistic, organic, and international health and beauty products." Crunch 18:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't mean to be condescending and I understand some people are learning English as a second language, but again this is an English language article and I stand by my statement that Apothecary is a fairly common word in the English language. If we start linking any word that might be unknown to non-native speakers, we'll be linking every word which is against Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. And, again, the link to the Apothecary article does absolutely nothing to inform the reader about what the Kims' store is about. Crunch 00:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Dobie center

I saw your attempts te clear the Dobie center page of the reference to who set the fire, and especially the link to this girl's phone number etc. I would like to let you know your changes have been undone. I am a new wikipedia user so I have no idea what to do about this but perhaps you do? Thanks! Kimelinor 12:04, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

removal of material from the Lewis Libby talk page

You removed my question from the Lewis Libby because "[the talk page] is not a discussion forum."

Well, for one, it is a discussion forum. A discussion forum dedicated to improving the article. And for two, I, personally, believe my question is relevant to the article. If people on the right have criticized Bushes actions for not granting Lewis Libby, it should be mentioned in the article. Maybe you should be a little less trigger happy when it comes to removing material, next time...

In any event, do you have any objections to my readding my question? TerraFrost 19:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Please follow Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Your question is inappropriate. It does not concern "making improvements to the article." It is a question pertaining only to the subject of the article, not to impoving the article. I moved the content that you placed on my talk page to your own talk page. I do not think that you should re-add your question to the talk page of the article: Talk: Lewis Libby. It is not a discussion forum on any other matter than making improvements to the article. Your question is not relevant to that. --NYScholar 20:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

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Please stop posting comments relating to Talk:Lewis Libby on my personal talk page. Thank you. --NYScholar 21:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I replied to your new comment on Talk:Lewis Libby. Thank you for understanding. --NYScholar 21:16, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for your help over at the WW2 template talk. -- penubag 07:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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polyglot

It did go there, but I changed the redirect, which was not the best one, hence making your edit to CPB uneeded. The edit summary did mention this tersely. Johnbod (talk) 23:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Your comment to Tennis expert

Just so you know, Tennis Expert is indefinitely blocked, so your message to him may not be particularly useful. Just a heads-up. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 04:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I won't be getting a response from him, then, heh. Thanks for the heads up! TerraFrost (talk) 04:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source of quotations

Nice bold move putting that up. I think we gave the critics several days to voice an objection and I would see removal to be against consensus. I still don't like the verbage but I'm sure somebody will correct that. - Stillwaterising (talk) 03:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Cousins Properties

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Cousins Properties

I saw your discussion with Malleus Fatuorum, and upon looking into it, I've restored the article, and added a reference that should make it immune to speedy deletion under A7. I've no real stake in whether someone PROD's it, AFD's it, etc.

Note that in the form it was when it was tagged and deleted, it did not make an assertion of notability, and an A7 speedy was not ureasonable. The easy way to get this undeleted would have been to politely raise the issue with the deleting admin, and tell them that if it was undeleted you would add such an assertion. Would have saved you quite a bit of typing and arguing. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Please help me with... I'm trying to add map data to Walnut Creek (Central Texas) and am having some difficulty.

Using the National Hydrography Dataset I created this:

Template:Attached KML/Walnut Creek (Central Texas)

I then tried to add it to Walnut Creek (Central Texas) by doing this:

#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
{{Infobox river
| name              = Walnut Creek ( Central Texas)
| image             = Walnut Creek at Pioneer Farms.jpg
| image_size        = 240
| image_caption     = 
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------
#
| map={{maplink|frame=yes|plain=yes|frame-align=center|frame-width=290|frame-height=240|type=line|raw={{Wikipedia:Map data/Wikipedia KML/Walnut Creek Central Texas}}}}

The problem is that that is getting me a <mapframe>: Couldn't parse JSON: Syntax error error when I try to preview it.

Any ideas? TerraFrost (talk) 13:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at Wikipedia:Map data/Main Roads Western Australia/Forrest Highway as an example, the template is expecting JSON, but your data is in XML. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) I'd also check out Wikipedia:Map data and the Commons page linked in the hatnote; §How includes a link to a KML-to-JSON script. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:14, 1 September 2021 (UTC) (Courtesy pinging Shushugah for existing converter) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TerraFrost @Primefac My suspicion is Template:Attached KML/Walnut Creek (Central Texas) is currently XML, when the raw attribute of Template:Maplink is expecting GeoJSON. I am trying an online converter from XML to GeoJSON to see if that works. ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TerraFrost @Rotideypoc41352 the good news is: {{maplink|frame=yes|plain=yes|frame-align=center|frame-width=290|frame-lat=41.253|frame-long=-95.862|zoom=11|raw={{Wikipedia:Map data/Wikipedia KML/Walnut Creek (Central Texas)}}}} renders properly, which suggests that Template:Infobox river is not expecting an embedded Template:maplink but this is a step ahead now Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I disabled the above two maplink templates because they make editing this talk page excrutiating (I had to wait a minute after saving my comment below, and it failed with a "time...has expired" message). Johnuniq (talk) 05:28, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Shushugah - I converted the (fixed) XML to GeoJSON to get Wikipedia:Map_data/Walnut_Creek (Central Texas) but now I'm getting a

<mapframe>: The JSON content is not valid GeoJSON+simplestyle. The first validation error is on the element "/0/query": "The property query is required".

error. I don't understand. When I do Ctrl + F on Wikipedia:Map data/Main Roads Western Australia/Forrest Highway I don't see query anywhere in that json... TerraFrost (talk) 01:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I "fixed" the "time allocated for running scripts has expired" problem at Walnut Creek (Central Texas) by purging the page. It's easiest to do it this way: Click edit to edit the whole page. Click Publish at the bottom to publish/save it. Do not enter an edit summary and do not change anything. That causes the server to have another go at rendering (displaying) the page. This time we got lucky and it worked. The fundamental problem is that the system for displaying maps is crazy as it is asking the system to do far too much work (Template:Attached KML/Walnut Creek (Central Texas) is over 99KB and it has to be parsed and processed in a very time-consuming manner). I don't know the solution but I think I've raised the issue before. I have not digested the comments immediately above. If there is still a problem, please comment again. Johnuniq (talk) 05:23, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnuniq - Even if all I do is click Publish I'm still getting another error now:

<mapframe>: The JSON content is not valid GeoJSON+simplestyle. The first validation error is on the element "/0/query": "The property query is required".

. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walnut_Creek_(Central_Texas)&oldid=1041932205 . I mean, I can try to reduce the size of the JSON by using ST_Simplify but if the JSON can't be parsed it can't be parsed and simplifying it won't help with that. Removing the names (or reducing the information in them) for each segment would help to. But again, I don't see the point if the JSON won't even validate. This latest JSON is parsed just fine on https://geojson.io/#map=12/30.3519/-97.6952 so idk why it'd be an issue on wikipedia. https://pastebin.com/QN1ev82w is the new KML (the original KML I posted was bad) if it helps TerraFrost (talk) 11:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Something is not right with the data. I created a map on Commons using the KML data converted to GeoJSON and well, see for yourself. –Fredddie ™ 13:52, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I read over the thread and I'll try it again with the new data. –Fredddie ™ 13:54, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is an easier way to do all this if you have a KML file to begin.

Upload the KML to [[Template:Attached KML/<pagename>]]
Using User:Evad37/kmlToJson, convert the KML to GeoJSON, select-all and copy
There are two links in the KML page's edit notice, one goes to [[Wikipedia:Map data/Wikipedia KML/<pagename>]], the other to [[commons:Data:<pagename>.map]]

The Commons version will use far, far fewer resources than the raw data hosted on enwiki will.
At Commons, paste the converted GeoJSON to the data field; be sure to paste over these brackets.
```
    "data": {

        ... GeoJSON ...

    }
```
Fill in the particulars of the other fields (center coords, description, license, etc.) and save.
You should be able to use the Commons map like this: {{maplink-road|from=<pagename>.map}}. {{Maplink-road}} is just a shorthand for {{maplinkmaplink|frame=yes|plain=yes|frame-align=center|frame-width=290|frame-height=240|type=line|from=<pagename>.map}}

We use these maps pretty extensively for roads, so you can always drop a question at WT:USRD. –Fredddie ™ 14:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Fredddie - thank you!! TerraFrost (talk) 20:14, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I had the same problem and was able to fix it. The error occured because property values, that expect a number as input, had quotation marks in them (e.g. "stroke-opacity": "1" instead of "stroke-opacity": 1. After removing the quotation marks the error message disappeared. --Renek78 (talk) 07:27, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! The image situation is somewhat complex. It seems the individual portrait pics were uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons. But non-free images cannot go there. (Commons:Commons:Licensing makes it clear the Commons only takes freely licensed images). They must be locally uploaded to the English Wikipedia. The reasons for deletion on the Commons do not translate to having these images deleted on the English Wikipedia.

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