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Regime

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In 1989 Taylor launched an armed uprising from Ivory Coast. He came to power in 1990 after Prince Johnson overthrowing and killing President Samuel Doe whose troops had been accused of civilian attrocities. Taylor had been appointed by Doe to run the General Services Agency but did jail time in a Massachusetts prison when Doe accused him of embezzeling almost US$ 1 million.

Taylor's regime was legitimized when he became Liberia's president in a landslide poll victory in 1997. The vote may have been tainted by ballot-stuffing and intimidation of opponents.

What title if any did Taylor have between 90 and 97? the article states he came to power in 90, but he became president in 97, what about Sawyer who is listed as Pres from 90-97 was he just a figure head or was he an opposing group that had international recongization ? User:Smith03

The second-biggest rebel group is Movement for Democracy in Liberia [1]

Nigeria

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Could someone explain me what is ment by neighbouring country Nigeria? -- Inic

It's nearby. They don't border but are part of the same region. Everyking 08:02, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This article is hopelessly confusing

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As someone who doesn't know much about Charles Taylor, this article is hopelessly confusing to me.

Firstly, there's a lot of missing context information. For example, a paragraph starts with "He was briefly arrested in 1979 after threatening to take over the Liberian diplomatic mission in New York City". What job did he have at this time? This might not seem like a big problem, but such background information is missing throughout this article.

Secondly, you have parts that are ridiculously short and eventful. Here's an example: "Taylor managed to flee the United States and shortly thereafter went to Libya where he underwent guerrilla training under Muammar al-Gaddafi, becoming Qaddafi's protegé.[3] Eventually he left Libya and used the training he gained there to begin a civil war in Liberia." Holy crap! Did someone just become an international fugitive, become an ally of an infamous dictator, and start a civil war in yet another country - all in just two sentences!?

Then you have things that are just totally unexplained. For example, "After the official end of the civil war in 1996, Taylor became Liberia's president on August 2, 1997, following a landslide victory in July, in which he took 75 percent of the vote." Could someone please explain to me what the relevance of Sierra Leone's civil war to Liberia is? Sure, it mentions Taylor's association with the RUF, but I still don't see the relevance. I'm sure it is relavent, but I don't know why.

You also have periods of time that are simply missing. For example, the section "rise to power" is followed by "end of rule". What happened in between?

This article needs some serious re-writting. 58.172.80.154 (talk) 01:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for leaving your concerns here. I worked on this article awhile ago and added some of the sentences you mention (Ghaddafi, arrest in NYC) from some Economist articles I read about Taylor. Most articles about Taylor rarely give any type of deep background into his bio, so it can be confusing even for someone wading through a lot of sources. The sources I referred to said nothing more than what I added to the article, and it's better for it to be included, albeit briefly, than not at all. However, someone could definitely try to fill in these gaps.--Gloriamarie (talk) 17:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Nigerian peacekeepers

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"The neighbouring nation of Nigeria also deployed dozens of troops to the country"

I just watched a documentary (Liberia: An uncivil war) which claimed that about 700 Nigerian peacekeepers were deployed. I did a quick search and found this which says that initially 200 peacekeepers were deployed, and that 3250 was expected. Couldn't find anything on how many who were eventually deployed, but "dozens" might be understating it a bit. The History of Liberia article mentions the Nigerian peacekeepers, but doesn't say how many they were. 80.203.115.12 22:34, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There were two separate UN peacekeeping missions, each done partly in conjunction with an ECOWAS mission. The article on this topic (UNMIL)) is painfully incorrect, as I've noted on its talk page, and I plan to fix it up and break it into two articles as it should be since I am quite knowledgable about the topic. As of right now, I'm not sure of the answer to your question but Nigeria did send peacekeepers to both missions and had quite a bit more for the second mission. That probably has something to do with the confusion on this topic. The two missions were UNOMIL (1993-1997) and UNMIL (2003-Present). The first had an ECOWAS counterpart, the second one started out under ECOWAS and got taken over by the UN, if my memory serves me. I'll brush up on the subject tonight and fix the problem. --The Way 15:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Pat Robertson

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Has anybody got more information concerning why Pat Robertson tried to portray this loathesome dictator as some sort of persecuted hero? Sweetfreek 21:53, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If its mentioned at all, I think it should be done in passing, e.g. "He has spawned controversy, illiciting support from such notables as X, and larger outcry from X." Arvidius 09:21, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pat Robertson owns (or owned) a gold mine in Liberia, among other properties in that country. I guess holy men of God need money too 195.7.34.195 13:50, 28 March 2006 (UTC) K.B.[reply]

I've added a citation to the Virginian-Pilot article. However, the article is not sufficient for much of the current section on Pat Robertson. The content of this section should be edited and additional reliable sources provided. Alternatively, the content could be deleted, or greatly downsized, since it concerns Pat Robertson more than Charles Taylor. (I tend to agree with Arvidius's solution of mentioning Pat Robertson in passing, presuming that other notables did support Taylor.) -Scottwiki 05:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Any objection to moving this Pat Robertson section between Rise to Power and End of Rule? As is, everything else is chronological, this is the only section that is out of place. GRuban 19:04, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pat Robertson is not a key figure in the story of Charles Taylor. The progression "Rise to Power" - "Taylor and Pat Robertson" - "End of Rule" emphasizes Robertson all out of proportion to the story of Taylor and his rule in Liberia. I'm convinced now that Robertson should be mentioned in passing, if at all.
(Charles Taylor may be a key figure in the story of *Pat Robertson,* since the Taylor connection is a notable controversy in Robertson's career. That justifies a section on Taylor in the Pat Robertson article. Taylor's importance to the article on Robertson doesn't mean that Robertson is important to the article on Taylor.) -Scottwiki 04:31, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The current version of the Pat Robertson section has a bad reference (14) in it. This referenced article is indeed about Pat Robertson, but does not mention Taylor, diamond mines, or the DA of Virginia. I've never written in Wiki; can someone address this? Is there a better reference?4.228.21.117 18:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC)Wisdomaspire[reply]

Child soldiers?

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The articles places no mention upon the army of over 20,000 child soldiers that Taylor had in the NPFL, and his methodologies of keeping them loyal. I know wikipedia has a very narrow index of child soldiery articles, but I think it is particularly relevant, especially with his involvement in Sierra Leone. Arvidius 09:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

His middle name

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The article lists his middle name as Ghankay. I've heard some sources give McArthur as his middle name. Which is it?

It appears that "Charles MacArthur Taylor" is an alias. See, for example, [2]. -Scottwiki 10:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure, but I think MacArthur was his original middle name, and Ghankay was something he added later, perhaps for symbolic reasons because the name is African. Everyking 07:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Missing information

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The article states "...controlled most of the country. Doe was overthrown, and tortured to death..." in the paragraph detailing one of the first uprisings he lead. Who the hell is Doe?

Samuel Doe was a military dictator who performed a coup d'etat circa 1980 and who Charles Taylor worked for for three years before being exiled to the US. When Charles Taylor helped to start a civil war it was against the government of Samuel Doe.

The article also begins discussing the regional conflict with the Sierra Leone war, which began after and was initiated by Taylor, but makes little mention of his activities before then.

Charles Taylor is a frequent figure in numerous 419 scams?

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Scams are exactly what the word says. 419 is a section in Nigerian law covering the practice. I have removed this note from article, pending proof: Note: Charles Taylor is a frequent figure in numerous 419 scams. Gregorydavid 14:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Al Qaeda links?

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According to this article (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0505/27/i_dl.01.html), it is claimed that prosecuters are accusing Taylor of aiding and abetting members of al Qaeda in an effort to destabilize the entire West African region. Worth mentioning, perhaps?

Sure; it's probably nonsense, but the accusation is notable. Everyking 10:05, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AQ offered very high prices for diamonds and asked no questions. Their interactions with Taylor supported his kleptocracy.

419 scam

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i've received this mail today: Attn:

I am one of the personal financial secretary/investment advicer to president Charles Taylor of Liberia who is presntly in United nation detention in Holland for trial.

Dear, pls i need your foreign partnership to assist me invest in your country. I have interest in buying of shares in big companies,corporate orgenizations and real estate management and any other profitable business you may wish to recommend for me.

I have with me $8.5M for this project. I realized the fund from sales we made in cash from liberia diamond and timber trades during the administration of president taylor. This money is presently with INTERNATIONAL BANK (LIBERIA) LIMITED My major problem now is the world national court and united nations has also decleared his TEN MAN COMMITEE WANTED WHICH I AM AMONG THEM, for judgement for his past rule to Liberian Government with his ten men commitee.

Please view this websits for more proof:::::::::::::::::::::::FOR YOU ALONE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taylor

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4860976.stm

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=8936

As soon a s this money is transfered to you, i will come over immediately.send your direct phone number where i can reach for more discussions.pls keep this mail and transaction confidential for security reasons especially for my sake. YOU CAN ALSO CALL ME OR SEND SMS TEXT IMMEDIATELY ON MY PRIVATE NUMBER+234-8060016358.

Best regards,

Joy Mba.

Thanks for sharing that - those scam letters are often hilarious the way they use English - see the website 419eater.com for lots of other entertaining examples. The fact that Taylor is currently a leading figure in these bogus letters, along with former Nigerian strongman Sami Abcha and Angolan guerrila leader Jonas Savambi could be worth a mention in the 'cultural references' section of this article.

Something else should be made clear:

THE LETTER ABOVE IS A SCAM. THE SENDER IS A FRAUD. DO NOT CONTACT HIM OR SEND HIM MONEY.

I know, you wouldn't do it, nor would anyone with half a brain, but some people are doing it, or these letters would not keep coming out. Whenever one of these letters is reproduced, it should have a warning of some sort attached; sad, but there it is. 76.2.152.124 (talk) 21:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming proposal

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Since the disambig page has 14 different "Charles Taylor" articles, why does the name go to this one guy? Seems to give him undue precedence. I thus propose renaming this article to "Charles G. Taylor" and renaming the disambig page to "Charles Taylor". Comments? Akradecki 20:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No objections, so I've made the move. Akradecki 22:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
_ _ Moved to Charles Taylor (Liberia). He is virtually always called "Charles Taylor", so the initial is an contrived substitute for explicit disambiguation. Cases like this are what Dab'g is designed to do.
_ _ Having Charles Taylor be his article was not as outrageous as your reasoning suggests: English speaking culture has given him substantial precedence over nearly all of the others by talking about him so much. But i for one need some context to know whether the name refers to the warlord or the philosopher, so even tho i suspect Google would show the warlord is far more notable, i have no objection to equal disambiguation.
--Jerzy•t 22:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Escape from Massachusetts

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Many articles discussing Charles Taylor talk about the escape from Massachusetts as being a bit dodgy. They consistantly refer to the possibility of there being assistance from influential Americans interested in removing Doe from power.

I was unable to find a solid reference discussing the issue which would allow the adding of this to the main article.

Mentioned in:

Lod 23:39, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out now HE is actually saying the US government helped him escape.
http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2009/07/17/liberias_taylor_says_us_arranged_escape/
Xmzx (talk) 15:37, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is actually proof now that this was US organized, via a Freedom of Information request. See here for details. I would update the artice but my English writing skills aren't so great. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16627628 Potatman (talk) 17:41, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article that made the claim that FOIA requests showed that Taylor had been invalid with US intelligence has since been retracted. (It did not, anyway, claim that this request showed that his escape had been organized by the US) The correction is quoted below on this page. GabrielF (talk) 19:03, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Extradition and trial of Charles Taylor

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I have moved all details to Taylor's trial from the Liberia page to this bio. In case I missed a detail (esp. current) please use this info provided below from the former liberia trial sectoin for correction on his trial.

- In March 2006, President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf sent a letter formally requesting the extradition of Charles Taylor from Nigeria to face justice. While Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo confirmed receipt of the request and notified the Chairman of the African Union, Denis Sassou-Nguesso, and the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) Mamadou Tandja on March 17, 2006, Nigeria’s plans to comply with the request were not immediately clear. After representatives from Liberia and Nigeria met to discuss the issue, Nigeria announced on March 25, 2006 that it would allow Liberian authorities to arrest Taylor. It was long feared that Taylor could easily slip into hiding to escape charges of the Special Court for Sierra Leone, and by March 28 Taylor had reportedly disappeared from his Nigerian compound. He was recaptured by alert border guards at dawn on March 29 trying to cross into Cameroon. Taylor was quickly flown to Liberia, where he was shuffled onto a waiting UN helicopter to face charges for crimes against humanity in Sierra Leone (though not in Liberia). The venue for his trial was changed form Sierra Leone to The Hague, and he was flown out of Sierra Leone on June 20, 2006.[1] He has been imprisoned in the Netherlands waiting for his trial which began on 25 June 2007. Taylor initially refused to appear in court, and initially planned to defend himself, but has since appeared and requested lawyers.[2] According to Trial Watch the proceedings have been postponed until January 2008 to allow Taylor's new legal team time to prepare.

Thank you, Kain Nihil 06:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Joseph Winter (2006-06-16). "Taylor trial to be out of Africa". BBC.
  2. ^ "Former Liberian leader ends boycott of war crimes trial". The Guardian. 2007-07-03.

Removing apparently plagiarized section

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I've just removed the "Charles 'Chuckie' Taylor" section, since it seems to be directly copied-and-pasted from a Dec. 6, 2006 CBS News/AP Story. The material was added the same day the CBS article came out. If someone wants to re-write the section, though, the information does seem relevant. Maybe "Chuckie" should even have his own page? Bencoland (talk) 22:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Charles Taylor.jpg

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Translation into Chinese Wikipedia

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The 02:03, 14 January 2010 173.79.40.214 version of this article is translated into Chinese Wikipedia to expand a stub.--Wing (talk) 19:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved, there is no consensus that these articles should be moved GB fan 13:49, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

– The Liberian ex-dictator is by far the best known and most famous person with this name, and the only one to have served as a head of state (and heads of state are more notable than almost any other category of people). D O N D E groovily Talk to me 14:48, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure that the people of Liberia would agree that they are a minor state. I am just going to assume you are from rival Sierra Leone and not furthering your western systematic bias.--TM 01:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No personal attacks please. Liberia pop. a little under 4 million, there are currently more than 100 larger countries and some larger cities. I would not like to guess how many heads of state there have been in the history of the world, or how many of them have made bigger headlines, but the suggestion above that all heads of state are more notable than almost any other category of people is almost as ludicrous as your assumption of ethnic bias on my part. Andrewa (talk) 03:33, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The dictator has been in and out of the news since the 90s. Rothorpe (talk) 01:36, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. There certainly are a few larger cities than Liberia (though not many, and I doubt there are larger companies). However, no modern CEO or mayor has exerted the kind of influence over the lives of their employees or citizens as Charles Taylor has over his, which was to end them. ("He killed my ma, he killed my pa, but I will vote for him.") I won't argue that all heads of state are by definition more notable than every other category, as many peaceful heads of state came in and left with little fanfare. This particular head of state, however, has made his mark, in blood. The Canadian philosopher, Templeton prize or not, hasn't. (Thank heavens.) --GRuban (talk) 11:55, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose—There are a lot of people with this name. Between all the politicians, the philosopher, the shoe guy, etc, I don't think that the dictator satisfies the "more likely than all the other topics combined" clause of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I think the disambiguation we have now might be best. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 05:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Confusing passage

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"With the backing of the then-South African president Thabo Mbeki and against the urging of Sierra Leone president Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, Ghana declined to detain Taylor, who returned to Monrovia."

The use of the term "backing" is very confusing here. Did Mbeki want Taylor detains (he "backed" detainment) or did Mbeki want Taylor released ("He backed Ghana declining to detain him)? D O N D E groovily Talk to me 14:58, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CIA involvement

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According to www.rawstory.com, and reported by the Boston Globe newspaper, Charles Taylor used to work for the CIA. If this is correct, the article about him should mention this as well. See the link at http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/20/alleged-war-criminal-charles-taylor-worked-for-cia-report/

If there is indeed a link to CIA involvement then this should be linked to given that Taylor is currently standing trial for (alleged) war crimes. 178.190.74.219 (talk) 22:37, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Globe has largely retracted this story, noting:
This story drew unsupported conclusions and significantly overstepped available evidence when it described former Liberian President Charles Taylor as having worked with US spy agencies as a “sought-after source.’’ The story, based on a response by the US Defense Intelligence Agency to a long-pending records request from the Globe, described the agency’s response as having “confirmed its agents and CIA agents worked with Taylor beginning in the early 1980s.’’ But the agency offered no such confirmation; rather, it said only that it possessed 48 documents running to 153 pages that fall in the category of what the Globe asked for -- records relating to Taylor and to his relationship, if any, with American intelligence going back to 1982. The agency, however, refused to release the documents and gave no indication of what was in them. One of the grounds for that refusal was suggestive, citing the need to protect “intelligence sources and methods,” but that, by itself, fell well short of a sufficient basis for the published account. There has long been speculation that Taylor had such a role, speculation fueled in part by Taylor’s own suggestion in trial testimony that his 1985 escape from prison in Plymouth, Mass., may have been facilitated by CIA operatives. But Taylor, now standing trial before a UN special court on charges of rape, murder and other offenses, denies he was ever a source for US intelligence. The Globe had no adequate basis for asserting otherwise and the story should not have run in this form. [3]
Given this correction, the Globe article should not be used as a source. GabrielF (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should this BBC source be used then? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16627628 222.255.199.27 (talk) 07:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, the BBC source is restating the Globe's claims without doing its own research. GabrielF (talk) 16:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

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mistake on religion needs clarification or correction - listed as baptist. but is currently jewish.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/04/26/former-liberian-president-convicted-of-war-crimes

"Taylor, a former Baptist who converted to the Jewish faith"Newtonsghost (talk) 18:06, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to this article (I'm not familiar with the source, so I don't know whether it pass WP:RS), he married polygamously in an Islamic ceremony. Nyttend backup (talk) 21:33, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He is a Jewish convert Jewish Convert--Inayity (talk) 08:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This article (and those cited on the main page) indicate that his wife considers him to be Jewish. However, he does not seem to have succeeded in conversion to Judaism, which requires the approval of a Jewish court (Bais Din). I have thus edited the page to indicate that he is attempting to convert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.14.78.196 (talk) 05:13, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is a theological technicality,(many types of Jews, many ways to convert) his wife is a R.S on his religion, unless you can ask HaShem his wife is a R.S she didnt say She believed she said (and I will quote: He has decided to become a Jew. And he wants to follow the true religion according to him. He wants to know deeply about God," Mrs. Victoria Taylor told BBC radio.Mrs. Taylor said her husband found Judaism only after his trial began."When he got to The Hague, he got to know that he really, really wanted to be a Jew. And he wanted to convert to Judaism. And that's what he has done… He wants to know deeply about God and all about creation, and he wants to serve God accordingly and immediately," she said.http://abcnews.go.com--Inayity (talk) 11:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We are not supposed to "speculate" to the "type" of Judaism he converted to. His wife is not an expert on Jewish Faith and did not specify the sect he converted to. She alluded to his belief structure, and that is all we can say. --Inayity (talk) 22:06, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

enlisting children under 15 war crime

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In the box with SCSL verdicts, "Conscripting or enlisting children under the age of 15 years into armed forces or groups, or using them to participate actively in hostilities" is classified as "VIHL" ("Other serious violation of international humanitarian law"). This should be classified as War Crime according to the Rome Statute : In its definition of war crimes the statute includes "conscripting or enlisting children under the age of fifteen years into national armed forces or using them to participate actively in hostilities" (Article 8(2)(b)(xxvi)) in international armed conflict; and in the case of an internal armed conflict, "conscripting or enlisting children under the age of fifteen years into armed forces or groups or using them to participate actively in hostilities" (Article 8(2)(e)(vii)).

Source: http://www.child-soldiers.org/international_standards.php 157.150.192.237 (talk) 15:18, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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"Messianic Judaism"

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Not sure if this term applies to converts who don't abandon every aspect of Christianity. Messianic Jews are Jews who convert to Christianity without scrapping all Jewish tradition, while Taylor appears to be doing the exact opposite. If he intends to practice both religions simultaneously, I don't think there's a good term for that. Suggestions? --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 20:19, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Liberia civil crisis and leader

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list all warring faction that fought the Liberia civil crisis and their leader 41.191.107.54 (talk) 13:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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