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Acadians vs. Cajuns

I clicked on the link to List of Cajuns to find information to bolster my position in a discussion I was having with an American as to whether the French culture and French language were dying. I hoped to find the names of noteworthy Americans on this list. But the list is redirected to List of Acadians, which, while interesting, are all Canadians.

Are there noteworthy Americans with a Cajun ethnic background? -- Geo Swan 17:54, 2005 Mar 12 (UTC)

I have corrected this by making a separate List of Cajuns; see also the Category:Cajuns. -- Aaron charles 15:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True Cajuns?

Not everyone on this list would be called "Cajun" by a Cajun. They might all be from Louisiana, but here distinctions do tend to be made between Cajuns and non-Cajuns. The list would be better described as noteworthy Louisianans. C. Comeaux

There is already a list of noteworthy Louisianians. For now I have made some revisions to the page: linked to People from Louisiana and added "descent" to the explanation. Cajun status is usually self-proclaimed (occasionally added creatively in bios, though still a stretch). Despite its less-than-perfect DNA matching, I think there is some value to the list. ACMe 19:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A better title may be "People of Cajun Descent/Ancestry." That would not designate who is and who isn't a "true Cajun" - but at the same time, it would make it more clear that some of the people listed are not primarily Cajun.72.191.189.123 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neither General Chennault nor General Lejune are of Cajun ancestry. Their families are both French Creole. I think there are a few more names on this list that would fall in the same category. Not all French ancestry Louisianians are Cajun, as I am related to Gen Chennault and I take exception when called a Cajun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.242.4.81 (talk) 06:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would add that P.G.T. Beauregard was not a Cajun, and as far as I can tell, of Acadian descent. His page clearly states that he was born "outside New Orleans, to a French-Spanish Creole family." Acadiano10 (talk) 09:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rachael Ray

The source only says her father is Cajun. I'm not deleting it yet. I suspect there is probably a source out there that calls her a Cajun. Mad Jack 22:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there are many. On her shows, she always talks about her father being Cajun and her mother being Italian. Michael 01:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But you once again just said her father is Cajun! Not that she is. It means we can list her father, but we need a source that actually says she herself is a Cajun. That's what I need to find. Mad Jack 01:06, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If her father is, she is. It's that simple. Ray also talks about the influence her paternal heritage had on her cooking, too. Michael 01:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's your opinion/POV, and it needs to be kept away from this and other pages. The only POV that we need to be here is that of reliable sources. If they have called Ray a Cajun, we can too, if not, not. It doesn't matter what Wikipedia editors think on the matter, only thing that matters is what the sources say on Ray. Mad Jack 04:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will put Rachael Ray back on the list in order to be consistent. In almost every list of people of different nationalities, having a parent of that nationality warrants inclusion on the list. Even having a grandparent is quite often used. We might have different views on how correct this is, but as long as these criterias are used for other groups I don't find any reason for applying harsher rules for Cajuns. JdeJ 08:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it doesn't matter "how much" X ancestry a person has - both parents, 1 parent, grandparent, whatever. The only "Rule" across all of Wikipedia is that a source specifically calls a person that "X" (i.e. "Rachel Ray is X", as opposed to "Rachel Ray has X grandmother" or something like that; regardless of what standards the source uses to call the person an "X"). So, is there a source that calls Rachel Ray herself a Cajun? I would imagine there should be Mad Jack 06:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm.... this source [1] describes Ray as an Italian-American.... our Wiki entry for some reason says her father is "French American" rather than "Cajun". That needs to be changed since French American and Cajun are not exactly the same thing Mad Jack 08:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hey, i'm from thibodaux sha, and i love rachel but she aint no cajun. she was born in cape cod. that's *way* north of I-10 ! i think it's a marketing ploy. wow. a cajun! funny that here she says that her father is a cajun creole!? [2] well, which is it? a french american, a cajun, or a creole? i had to laugh when i saw her name on the list. rachel ray. funny.

At least she is Italian-American, but having multiple ancestry is of course very common, especially in the US and Canada. I think I've seen Milla Jovovich in four different lists of nationalities, that might already be stretching it a bit. JdeJ 19:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Noticing Ray's Wikipedia article now reads "French" descent, while being of "Cajun Creole" descent is possible for Ray,[3] it's a primary sourced statement (an interview) so not fulfilling WP:RS. I am going to ask about this on her talk page, maybe someone already did research. Jooojay (talk) 18:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes?

I'm unsure the footnotes for the list of Cajuns are particularly helpful or appropriate for Wikipedia. Many of them are in quotation marks, but I don't know what source or who is being quoted. Moreover, the content of these footnotes seems to be editorial in nature, rather than academic or documentary. Perhaps they should be deleted in whole or part? --Skb8721 02:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Sisko

Captain Sisko was a black person, not a Cajun. I think the correct designation would be Creole_(people). 75.32.162.129 (talk) 03:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In pop culture

The section of the Cajun article is becoming a list of mostly fictional characters. Since Wikipedia also frowns on pop culture references in general, I am suggesting that these be merged into the "Fictional characters" section of the List of Cajuns. Aaron charles (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't Brett Favre be included in this list?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.114.58.46 (talk) 15:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about Justin Wilson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Wilson_(chef))?

I removed Favre. See my explanation at Talk:Brett_Favre#Cajun question. Short explanation, ancestrally France to colonial Louisiana with no detour in Acadia; hence simply a Louisiana Creole (technically). Savvyjack23 (talk) 06:14, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

inclusion

The inclusion criteria for this list is "To be included in this list, the person must have a Wikipedia article showing they are Cajuns or must have references showing they are Cajuns and are notable." There are many names here that do not qualify. To make this list correct, it is necessary to remove these names or get articles for them or get references for them. I hope people who care about this list will do so. Otherwise, I will move the non-qualified names to the Talk page where they can remain until they qualify. Hmains (talk) 02:59, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leigh Hennessey

Leigh is listed twice. Is this on purpose? Seeasea (talk) 04:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pending additions to the list

The following people do not currently meet the inclusion criteria for this article. When they do meet the criteria, they should be removed from here and moved to the list. Hmains (talk) 16:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arts, culture, and entertainment

Jarvis Black, author, artist, musician
David Cheramie, activist, writer
Matthew Corpiel, singer
Shonda Farr American actress of part Cajun ancestry.
Rodney Guilbeaux, comedian
Brendan Connelly, Cajun and Country Music musician known as "The Ragin Cajun"
Richard LeBoeuf, accordion player and singer
Greg Ledet, stand-up comedian, musician
Michael Doucet, Cajun fiddler, singer and songwriter, founder of the band BeauSoleil, Grammy winner^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18A:C202:4229:C1FB:E025:E354:8E1A (talk) 02:02, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Law and politics

Chet Traylor, Louisiana Supreme Court Justice

Was his mother Cajun, as with Howard K. Smith? I have no information on his ethnicity.Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Military

Jefferson J. Deblanc, World War II Ace and Medal of Honor winner

References

^ http://louisianafolklife.nsula.edu/artist-biographies/profiles/75

Crystal, swamp pop musician?

Who is "Crystal, swamp pop musician"? The link goes to physics "crystal" page and I could not find any matching person in Crystal (given name). It lists five singers with surnames and none as "swamp pop musician". 188.238.169.179 (talk) 18:56, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I could not find anything either; removing until proven otherwise. There is a Cajun/Country singer named Crystal Plamondon, but she is Franco-Albertan and not Cajun. Savvyjack23 (talk) 06:11, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fictional characters

The inclusion of fictional characters that are also Cajun seems inappropriate for this list. It has zero citations and will be removed for now, but happy to discuss it here. It seems like as a topic, this would make a better standalone article (or one another type of wiki) since a fictional character does not speak to the culture, but rather to stereotypes. Jooojay (talk) 14:44, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://louisianafolklife.nsula.edu/artist-biographies/profiles/75

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