Talk:63rd (Royal Naval) Division

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I think the second and third verses of the poem about General Shute are in the wrong order. Franey 11:53, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The "poem" is described as a song in Max Arthur's book - perhaps it was put to music ? 90.11.100.174 (talk) 09:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Expansion

Filled in a few gaps with material parachuted from other articles, removed a few duplicated links and added some links to 1917 and 1918 battles.Keith-264 (talk) 16:50, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Ranks

Question on ranks: when Navy ratings transfered in, were their ranks changed to Marine/Army ranks, or were Naval ranks used? 155.213.224.59 (talk) 15:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Good question - I'm reading a book on the Asquith family at the moment, and it is clear - quoting from contemporary documents - throughout that naval ranks were used - Petty Officer, Lt (RN), Lt-Cdr, Commander. Arthur Asquith was a Lt-Cdr as a company commander, then a Commander as a battalion commander (RN stripes can be seen on his shoulders), then a brigadier-general. The book does say that the Army hierarchy disliked "the confusing mix of Army and Navy ranks".

And yet this article and Bernard Freyberg's biog has him as a major and lt-col at this time, cited to the London Gazette. Confusingly, and I think I'm reading it right after careful thought, his citation on 19 May 1916 lists his "appointment" from temp. Commander to Captain (I thought at first this was a promotion to Naval Captain, ie. equivalent to Colonel, but on reflection, and given the word "appointment" I suspect it means Army captain) AND from captain to temporary major. So maybe they switched to using Army ranks in May 1916.Paulturtle (talk) 02:40, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Patrick Shaw-Stewart's biog has him as a lt-cdr in France in 1917, so, assuming that's accurate, the mystery deepens. Maybe after May 1916 they had an official army rank on paper but used RN ranks in practice.Paulturtle (talk) 06:17, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

And Edwin Dyett, one of the handful of commissioned officers to be executed during the war, was a Sub-Lt at the time of his desertion (or otherwise) at the Ancre at the end of 1916.Paulturtle (talk) 21:55, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

My Grandads Family History, From MY RESEARCH which has turned up ODD Subject, Also Need HELPOVER Badge worn by 63rd Division, ( note just started here ).

In doing my Dads Army Records for years I had a photo which I know was My dads father, But for many years thought the photo was ARMY, but since many years RESEARCH I have found out he was in 63rd ( Royal Naval ) Division. ( New Section ) in First W.W. The odd thig about this Gentleman is he must have been a very odd sort of Gentleman as he USED TWO NAMES. His real name, Then for some ODD reason he ran off, which I am still sorting out, BUT he used his Wifes DADS name instead of his own. He was of course caught while abroad, but that is another story on its own. At moment I am just learning about the history of this Navy Division. If any one can help I would be grateful. I can of course supple rank, Name and photo of this Gentleman, IN fact both names and his record. In return for more help about this Divisions history, or photos. Dennis gates Denwar1 (talk) 15:05, 9 October 2019 (UTC)