Talk:Spanish–Portuguese War

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Also covered in a very similar and better titled article at War of the Oranges. Thue | talk 23:17, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The scope of this article hichly surpasses the War of the Oranges, which is but one of the conflicts between Portugal and Spain. The Ogre (talk) 21:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

War of the Portuguese Succession

True, Spain was divided in the War of the Spanish Succession. However, first Philip V was crowned King, and only once the war started did the Crown of Aragon declare for Archduke Charles. Also, most of Spain was for Philip, unlike the War of the Portuguese Succession, in which Portugal was more evenly divided. (The nobility and high clergy supported Philip II, while the common people supported Antonio.) King Philip V of Spain (talk) 12:31, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What matters is that both countries were divided. It is ridiculous to measure which country was more divided - the fact is that in both cases there was clearly visible and deep division. The War of the Portuguese Succession was a war after all, and despite the fact that the nobility and the clergy largely supported the Spanish cause, most of the Portuguese who fought in the war fought against the Spanish forces, so in military aspect Portugal did resist and it was almost unheard of Portuguese loyal to Dom Antonio to actually fight Portuguese loyal to Felipe II of Spain.

That war is never classified as a civil war, so if it is not a Spanish-Portuguese war, what it is then? Simple logic dictated that it is a Spanish-Portuguese war. --212.122.182.33 (talk) 12:53, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some Portuguese did fight with the Spaniards, and there was strong support from those that did not fight. I would say that since in both wars both countries were divided, neither of them should be listed. King Philip V of Spain (talk) 13:41, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In any case since the War of the Portuguese Succession is by all means not a civil war it definitely classifies for the term "Spanish-Portuguese War" despite the fact that some Portuguese fought for Spain. Both wars should be listed. Before the issue is fully settled I suggest that you either add the War of the Portuguese Succession or remove the War of the Spanish Succession. --212.122.182.33 (talk) 11:51, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then, add the War of the Portuguese Succession. Would it be a good idea to add, after 'War of the Portuguese Succession' and 'War of the Spanish Succession', something like 'Portugal was divided' and 'Spain was divided', in parentheses? King Philip V of Spain (talk) 16:27, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]