Talk:Monosexuality

NPOV

Note: This article needs to be edited for NPOV. The Anome 07:16 16 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I agree!66.41.126.203 02:28, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

What suggestions do you have for improvements? Just saying NPOV is useless. Tyciol 19:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Bigender considerations

If it is considered correct, can someone add the additional meaning that monosexuality refers to bigendered people who are attracted to a single gender, irrespective of which gender they are identifying as?

Of course, bigendered doesn't have an article either, I use the term for lack of finding a specific term for someone who identifies strongly as both male and female. Transgendered isn't a very specific tag and cross gender, genderqueer, cross-dressing and transvestite are incorrect. However, I've never found a non-subjective reference to bigenderism, so not very verifiable :(. -Unknown

You may want to look up genderqueer for what you're describing. While I understand your problem with the others, I think genderqueer is accurate, though perhaps not very specific. Genderless, transgender (which despite main use for MtF and FtM does at its root mean 'beyond' gender or supra-gender), and you'll like this: androgynous or Androgyne, although that might be more without sex than intersex. Ah yeah, intersex works too. You probably don't want to use the word hermaphrodite as that has physical rather than mental connotations. Oh shit, just found this *scribbles in* pangender. That might apply. Maybe make up a word like... bigender. After all there are differences between bisexual and pansexual so you might make a differentiation here. On the other hand, since it's a sole individual, I'm doubting it would be the same kind of situation, so I'd just use pangender if I were you.

Anyway, going with your original question, yes, monosexuality works for what you are describing. The main difficulty is that you can't class what you're calling as either homosexuality or heterosexuality since you don't identify with a gender. Even MtF and FtM do not have this problem as they can always class it with their assumed gender. What you may need to do is invent new terminology... such as male-attracted or female-attracted (though perhaps, nicer looking fancier words). These terms could then apply to people's sole form of monosexuality without denoting their own sex, and can also be used to describe half of both homosexuals and heterosexuals. For example, sole female-attracted would include heterosexual males and lesbian femasles, as well as those without gender ID who like only females. Tyciol 19:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Holy COW, BRAZEN

I was a witness to the "monosexual" flamewars of 1993-94, so this is kind of a nostalgic blast from the past for me. Were you there too?

Anyway, I've balanced out the article from my so-called "mono" perspective, but I'm not competent to respond to the extraodinary view of the transgendered in the final paragraph. I think the page should be reviewed and edited by members of the transgender community. If you can't tell, I think the article has a tiny little NPOV problem. Meanwhile, the paragraph on Kinsey makes no sense because:

1. you misquote his numbers, and
2. you speak as if in this paragraph "monosexual" meant "homosexual", leaving heterosexuals out of the category.

DanB DanD 00:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Dang, the article really should be including references to both. It is just probably more prominently homophobia keeping people from identifying with bisexuality since more people are hetero than homo sexual and more phobic of entering a minority. Do you know the accurate Kinsey stats? You could input them. Tyciol 19:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Why does this article exist?

Same sex = homosexual, opposite sex = heterosexual... Has it not always been that way? "Monosexual" is semantic nonsense. -Unknown

No it isn't, it is a blanket term that includes both heterosexuals and homosexuals. It means people who are attracted to one sex, rather than two (such as bi). Tyciol 19:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

It's the outright denial of a term meaning 'everyone who isn't bisexual' that is the nonsense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.251.53.34 (talk) 05:41, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

Soc.* flamewars

I've removed the Google Groups link to soc.bi, but only because it was 1/ obscenely long and 2/ didn't actually point even vaguely at the mentioned flamewar. IceKarmaॐ 21:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Dang, I would have liked to read that, I'll sign up for that group on my Google Groups. Tyciol 19:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Mono? Or... Uni?

Unisexual is already taken up by an article on plant biology. Due to that, I think monosexual is still the best place to keep this article. Even so, I put a disambig link here. On this page, I think we should consider listing unisexual as an alternative word for it. Obivously, monosexual arose as to describe a contrary state to bisexuality. Bi being 2. But traditionally with prefixes, such as bicycle, the singular would be unicycle. Shouldn't this case mirror that and be called unisexual? Mono is attached to monogamous, which is perhaps why it is associated with this, but I've certainly never heard of the word bigamous, mainly polygamous. Perhaps I am not familiar, but I say it deserves some consideration, if only to list both. I didn't just add it because I want feedback from others before doing this. Tyciol 19:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

There exist a word called digamous.

Technically, this article should be "unisexuality" in order to be consistent with the Latin prefix bi. See Numerical prefixes. However, it is very common to invent neologisms with prefixes containing "bi" for 2 and "mono" for 1 (even if it is inconsistent).

Examples contain the words monomial and binomial, but dinomial isn't a word. However, monolingual and unilingual are both popular and correct.

its a hybrid word

There exist an article called monosexuality instead of unisexuality because of some layman coined the word that does not know Latin and Greek. Nonagon is not consistent because of some layman that coined the word. See [[1]] of why it is moved to the more consistent Greek prefix enneagon.

See also corruption in linguistics. A reason of avoiding "unisexuality" is the confusion of "unisex." But in order to be consistent with the Latin prefixes, it has to be moved to "unisexuality." The word sex originated from Latin, so the Latin prefixes are desirable. So, technically, unisexuality is more correct than monosexuality.

Whether or not it's lingistically correct or not doesn't matter. It's not the place of Wikipedia to coin or correct words. It's 'monosexual' because that's what's used. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.251.53.34 (talk) 05:47, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

Merge proposal

Shouldn't this be merged with monosexism?Arbol25 08:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

disambiguation needed

I think this article needs disambiguation. Monosexual is also a term which describes people who have sex with themselves. Trilobitealive 15:29, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, a monosexual has sex ONLY with themselves and no one else.

One may sink into monosexuality in various stages of life, and then later emerge. A person of any sexual orientation may also be monosexual, so monosexuality is not a sexual orientation as such. Monosexuality is a process more than a lifestyle, however extreme monosexuality (onanism) can become a very negative influence and lead to public humiliation and ostracism.

Please produce a cite for this definition. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 17:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Meaning of the last sentence in para. contraversy

I'm someone who want to translate this entry into chinese language.I ask for help, because i can't understand the last sentence in paragraph contraversy, I hope someboby could tell me, what does whether it was simply the justified bisexual response to a frequently biphobic gay and lesbian culture mean. Does bisexual in this context refer to people or something else ? I'll be very appreciated ! Blankego 10:42, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I think it means that "monosexual" is sort a slur against the gay community. Traditionally, gay communities tend/ed to be fairly stratified and anyone who doesn't/didn't fit in to that particular majority group (IE: white, black, male, female, et cetera) was somewhat shunned. In this context, bisexuals using monosexual as an insult is a reaction to their being excluded. I type this based on my perception of things that haven't happened to me (for lack of a better word: gay folk-lore) so I could very well be mistaken.71.221.20.213 02:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Controversy?

I didn't know there was a controversy nowadays as it is generally an accepted term. Therefore I dispute the usage of such a strongly worded controversy section, unless citations are found. CorviCorvus (talk) 08:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

thoughts from a monosexual

So basicly this term has been stolen by gays, lesbians and heterosexuals? And somehow I find none of you interesting? I love myself more than both sexes. Both sexes are damn stupid. I don't care what kind of sex you love. You can fuck animals for all I care. Dont steal what I am because you doubt yourself or want others to doubt. Monosexual! I'll fuck myself before I'll fuck you.

Wikipedia is not a forum. Keep your personal opinions, trolling, and ranings to yourself.

Clarifying terminology

This really doesn't rate as a stub. This is a dictionary entry, and even the greenest noob must realize that Wikipedia is not a dictionary.

For what it's worth, I first encountered the term monosexual being used as a putdown of heterosexuals, which I found both amusing and misinformed. Apparently the thought was to conflate hetero- and mono- to indicate "limited" and therefore inferior.

To the best of my understanding, the term is in a troika, linguistically and conceptually:

• monogamy — married to (only) one (other person); a relational form meant to clarify inheritance by producing "an heir and a spare"
• monoamory — loving (only) one (other person)
• monosexuality — having sex with (only) one (other person)

Nothing dictates that individuals must hew to all three, and indeed many don't. By this typology, many swingers are both monogamous (having one day-to-day intimate partner) and monoamorous (eschewing emotional entanglement outside the couple) yet NOT monosexual. As well, people can love others deeply without needing to express it sexually or to be bound by a contract.

So, visit the opposite extreme. The popular tendency is to use poly- though this means "many" (from polloi as in hoi polloi) which seems to be flagrant hyperbole when it's mostly used to say "two," but set that aside. The result is that we have polygamy ("marriage to more than one") and polyamory ("loving more than one"), though polysexuality (which would be "sexually involved with more than one") has instead been taken over as a means to remove "bisexuality" from the inherent gender dichotomy thing. Continued existence of that article is the only tenable reason Monosexuality should survive.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 06:08, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Other than your "not a dictionary" argument, I'm not sure what you are arguing regarding the existence of this article. As you know, we can only go by what WP:Reliable sources state on this matter. And as for dictionary entries, if we are to state that this is a term article, the WP:WORDISSUBJECT section of Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary is clear that we have Wikipedia articles about words. WP:WORDISSUBJECT notes that such an article must go beyond what is found in a dictionary entry on the topic. This article does go a little beyond what is found in a dictionary entry on the topic. If you want this article deleted, you can take it to AfD (WP:Afd). But as a simple Google Books search shows, this topic is WP:Notable. And it's covered in media sources such as this 2016 Bustle source, which can be used to expand society and culture aspects of the article. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC) Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:42, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Coiner

The first coining of monosexual was by Karl Maria Kertbeny, along with normalsexual and doppelsexual, however the definition was different (but not sure what that used to mean too). Anyone knows? Would it be worthy to be mentioned in the article? Xdtp (talk) 02:15, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Where's the biology definition?

Where's the biology definition? You know of an animal that's singled sex? Like fish and snails? This is why we weren't allowed to use Wikki in highschool. 2600:1012:B10E:3CD:8CC9:B3FF:FE00:316E (talk) 18:26, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

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