User talk:Nuke~enwiki

3C-I

3C-I: Phenethylamine or psychedelic amphetamine? Is it okay to call 3C-I a phenethylamine, or is it better termed a psychedelic amphetamine? Shulgin kind of lumped it all together as phenethylamines in his book, but sometimes I wonder if I feel completely correct calling MDMA a phenethylamine. Then again, I guess they could be considered phenethylamines with an alpha-methyl group. Do you know which is more proper or correct, anyway?

Also, any idea why Shulgin didn't add some of the other 3c compounds? Assumably there should be Br/I versions of the escaline as well, which would both be theoretically more potent than the ethoxy group...Shulgin could easily have added many more psychedelic amphetamines to Pihkal, and I always wonder why he didn't. Was it because 3,5-DIMETHOXY-4-BROMOAMPHETAMINE didn't show much promise? --Nuke

The use of phenethylamines vs. hallucinogenic phenethylamines has to do with the ongoing wikipedia drug classification project vs. classification by chemical classes (most phenethylamines are not psychedelic / hallucinogenic). It's perfectly ok to call 3C-E an amphetamine in the text, but for categorization purposes it doesn't make that much sense to add one more subcategory to the scheme, at least as long as the number of entries are manageable.

Shulgin has simply put everything he had synthesized and tested at that time into his book. Beside that it might a bit more difficult to synthesize that derivative.

Cacycle 12:16, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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