Talk:Valdez, Alaska

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The caption and attributions for this historic photo are not entirely correct. The photo is one of a large collection taken by Phinney S. Hunt (1866-1917)^[1] in and around Valdez in the early 1900s. Much of his collection was later donated to and is now curated by the Alaska Library Special Collections^[2], including this wonderful photo^[3]. PS Hunt was the John Muir of early Valdez.

The caption reads "Valdez in 1910." However the archive collection lists the date of the photo as June 26, 1905^[4]. Given that Hunt documented his work meticulously with ID numbers, date, caption, and often additional notes, I think it is best to go with his date of 1905.

The attribution in the photo's Wiki media file gives the impression that the photo is "by Ella Higginson", in fact the download attribution reads "Valdez 1910 by Ella Higginson - Higginson, Ella (1910) Alaska, The Great Country, New York City: The MacMillan Company, pp. p. 148. Licensed under Public Domain via Commons"... I can understand the need to also cite the source of the license to use this photo, however I believe that the contribution made by this visionary photographer to the historic legacy of Valdez should be properly acknowledged and credited with his photo. Cengelbart (talk) 14:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ella Higginson wrote a 1910 book which used Hunt's 1905 photo. Simple. DS (talk) 17:01, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(and I've corrected the metadata on Commons and the descriptions of the file on every other-language Wikipedia) DS (talk) 17:50, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Some interesting history on the founding of Valdez from The Alaska Prospector, Volume 1, February 13, 1902

Could be considered a primary source because of the date, not particularly neutral, but interesting to read nonetheless, on the town's founding from it's first newspaper.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84021905/1902-02-13/ed-1/seq-1/

--œ^™ 03:21, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 2014 "Damalanche"

Wikipedia doesn't allow the Daily Mail to be used as a source. I get it; it's not the most reliable newspaper. Still, it's not 100% wrong. If you want to view good pictures of the Damalanche, see their article. The text, in this case, is also reliable. YoPienso (talk) 16:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.valdezmuseum.org/p-s-hunt/

[2] ttp://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/search/searchterm/Hunt,%20P.%20S.%20(Phinney%20S.),%201866-1917

[3] ttp://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg21/id/13359/rec/11

[4] ttp://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg21/id/13359/rec/11

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