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Richard Alpert

The blurb for Alpert states that he was a slave on the Black Rock based on the 'shackles' comment. Is there a reference that this is the intended meaning of the 'shackles' comment? As I watched the episode it was unclear what MIB's intended meaning was for this comment. Jeremiah McGowan 16:05, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

In the spirit of being bold, and because even the official Lost website does not contain any references to Alpert being on the Black Rock as a slave or otherwise, I have removed the comment from his blurb. Any disagreements, please post and let me know. Jeremiah McGowan (talk) 18:25, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Man In Black article

It has been in at least 20 episodes, and it looks as if it will be the main antagonist from this point forward. The Monster needs its own article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.0.106.210 (talk) 08:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is also technically now a main cast member. I smell an article coming… –thedemonhog talk • edits 08:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An article detailing all instances of the Man In Black/monster (including those portrayed by Yemi, Christian, Locke etc.) is a great idea. I think we also need to make it clear in character articles that, for example, the on-screen Locke we're now seeing is not Locke - ie. take the info about Locke post-death out of there, same with Christian, to avoid duplication in the MIB article. Tphi (talk) 13:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone getting on that MIB article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.0.106.210 (talk) 06:59, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No. –thedemonhog talk • edits 14:55, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

How about a bit on the introduction clarifying the "history" of the characters decribes how it was revealed over the first five seasons, and that the weird season 6 version of the events of 2004 may continue to conflict with that. Might prevent some revert wars! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.226.209 (talk) 01:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand what you're saying? --H E L LØ ŦH E R E 01:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Linus

Where is he? 98.235.81.240 (talk) 15:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Look for "Benjamin Linus". For some unknown reason article uses full names instead of the names that the characters are better known with. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2010

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 07:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Characters of Lost → Characters of Lost (TV series) —

To match main article, Lost (TV series), as there are many things called "Lost" which have characters. Just look at the dab page, Lost, will show that. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 05:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: "Lost" is quite a general term and when someone searches for it, they really could be searching for any in a number of possiblities. But when someone is typing in "characters of Lost", they really can only mean one of four things on Wikipedia and the television show is far more popular—enough so to override the others. This is covered at Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic?. We have an open-and-shut case here. –thedemonhog talk • edits 08:11, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - per thedemonhog. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 14:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - per above. Tphi (talk) 15:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Shouldn't perform the move User:Tw3435 without consensus. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per thedemonhog's rational Calmer Waters 01:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Monster and episode count

I think it's a good time to recall Talk:Characters_of_Lost/Archive_9#Is_episode_count_original_research.3F. The producers said that we have seen the monster before and we didn't realise it. Episode count not based on books or magasines was proven inaccurate for second time. (Lock's episode count was the first one). -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:32, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is not really the episode count's fault. By that token, multiple articles were wrong for months because they said that Locke had survived his death. –thedemonhog talk • edits 05:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Distinction between "main" and :"minor" characters

So, Nicky and Paolo are "main" characters, but Rose and Bernard are "minor?" How does that work out? They all had flashback episodes, and Rose and Bernard have been seen far more often and have been instrumental at times. 216.194.7.254 (talk) 23:48, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The distinction is made by who is credited as "starring" vs. "guest-starring". --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 00:30, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob should have his own page... his character is one of the major factors to the show, just as much as the Man in Black —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.103.174.40 (talk) 00:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New character articles

I think we need to look into creating articles for both Jacob and Naomi Dorrit. Jacob is really first priority here; he's (obviously) an integral part of the show's mythology, and now that there's a Man in Black article it seems sort of silly to not have a Jacob article. Naomi's article I could personally take or leave, but I think it's kind of important in that she had a flashback. If the time is going to be spent to give a character a flashback and shed some light on their backstory, I personally think they deserve an article. Gefred7112 (talk) 17:12, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob Needs his own page

He's one of the most important aspects of the mythology, just as much as the Man in Black, and has appeared in several episodes. In addition, he received his flashback episode (along with the Man in Black) in "Across the Sea". Even characters like Ethan, Cindy, Keamy, and Rousseau who never had flashbacks have their own article. I think its important that he gets one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JDJ39 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But every article needs to pass Wp:Notability to have it. Importance within the series does not make him notable.Tintor2 (talk) 00:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who is the arbiter of whether or not Jacob passes the Wp:Notability test?

Additionally, I question the validity of continuing to list Jacob as an "Other" at this point. It is clear that his role in the series long precedes that of the Others, and though his character is introduced by way of the Others, he's much bigger than any of the various groups in the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.141.158 (talk) 07:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's a fair few articles about Jacob and interviews with Mark Pellegrino out there. If you want to make a Jacob page, go for it Tphi (talk) 13:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't it better to see the article can pass notability before redirecting it? The most recent articles created, Illana and the Man in Black, have no reception sections.Tintor2 (talk) 13:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mother and Claudia

Though arguably not significant enough to warrant their own articles, clearly the characters of Mother and Claudia (played by Allison Janney and Lela Loren, respectively) - introduced in "Across the Sea" - have important enough roles in the series that they warrant inclusion in the "Miscellaneous characters" section. If "Bram" and "Diane Janssen" are regarded as important enough to be listed, I can't see how the characters of Mother and Claudia could not be considered notable enough to be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.141.158 (talk) 07:37, 13 May 2010 (UTC) New Character Display Picture[reply]

I waas just thinking, maybe we could put Jacob, the Mother, and Claudia in their own article if there isnt enough substance for each seperatly. They all tie in together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.104.231.224 (talk) 20:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Display Picture

I have found a very good one, that I think could be used instead of that one that is there - it has more characters on it - try cropping the the writing from the underneath them. What do you think? http://www.iimmgg.com/image/d09c6e2ba71b18692c408631524df199

New character articles: Pierre Chang and Eloise Hawking

Since they were credited as main cast members in the series finale, I think it's about time Pierre Chang and Eloise Hawking get their own articles. Agree? Gefred7112 (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If there are enough reliable sources to show notability then by all means go for it, though I suspect that may be a challenge. Sanders11 (talk) 20:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In connection with this, why are we labeling the guest characters from the finale as season 6 regulars? Yes, John Terry, L. Scott Caldwell, etc. were listed as a regular in the finale but saying there were a season 6 regular because of just that one episode, when every other appearance was a guest star, is a bit misleading. Same for Cynthia Watros and the other former main characters. I think we should move their status to recurring for season 6. Puppet125 (talk) 18:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They are starring the last episode. They are on the titles. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I say go for it. Nikki and Paulo have their own article, and they were probably the most minor "main" characters the show had. They had lines in maybe three episodes. Kevinbrogers (talk) 01:32, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2011

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was: Withdrawn by proposer. Consensus had not developed for move as proposed. No prejudice regarding future requests. Station1 (talk) 23:46, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Characters of Lost → List of Lost characters

Every other character list on Wikipedia is formatted this way. See List of Monk characters, List of The Office (U.S. TV series) characters, List of 30 Rock characters, and countless others. --Kevinbrogers (talk) 10:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. "List of Lost characters" looks like "list of characters which have been lost", with the ordinary dictionary meaning of "lost" as at wikt:lost. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How about List of Lost (TV series) characters? I started this for uniformity, as this is the only page on Wikipedia I can find that uses a different article title format. Kevinbrogers (talk) 11:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How about List of characters on Lost? Station1 (talk) 23:27, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's still not really going off of uniformity. The only two suggestions that do are List of Lost characters or List of Lost (TV series) characters. Kevinbrogers (talk) 23:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

rename to List of Lost (TV series) characters since the current title is ambiguous, and the proposed title is ambiguous. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 13:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to List of Lost characters. Anybody judging the article by its title is a fool. The capital L is clear enough, and I'm sure the first sentence of the article can clear it up. No need for a DAB modifier, just make the title a proper list title. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 16:20, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- going by Lost disambiguation page, there are quite a few fictional "Lost" items which would have characters, so I don't see how that is clear. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 20:22, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per wp:precise, "use titles as precise as necessary but no more". Sure it's a list, but does it have to be in the title? No. It is implied. I think titles "list of..." encourages cruft, which in turn attracts fancruft deletionists. It looks very nice as it does now, and I don't see why it has to change. ^walk victor falk^talk 23:52, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. "Every other character list on Wikipedia is formatted this way" is totally inaccurate. See Characters of Friends, Characters of Smallville, Characters of Supernatural, Characters of Glee etc. In fact of the featured articles and lists on groups of characters there are two that use "Characters of" (Characters of Carnivàle and Characters of Final Fantasy VIII) and two that use "List of" (List of Naruto characters and List of Tokyo Mew Mew characters). Personally I don't think it particularly matters either way. Sanders11 (talk) 00:21, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... sorry, I've never seen those. All the shows I like (everything on USA, most things on NBC, and most things on Fox) use "List of...", and I thought this was the only show that didn't. Kevinbrogers (talk) 02:21, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Might be worth bringing it up at WP:CHAR to see if a consensus can be reached for the best way to title them. Sanders11 (talk) 14:01, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Sanders11's logic Tphi (talk) 10:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guess I should do my research a little more next time. Sorry. Is there a way to withdraw this request? I'm not familiar with the way to do that. Kevinbrogers (talk) 22:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Alphabetical by last name?

This is really stupid. Most people know the characters only by their first name. How about changing it to first name, or listing Jack Shephard as first, followed by lesser main characters. Igottheconch (talk) 15:24, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob (Lost Character)

Note Jacob (Lost Character) has been created, I have seen some past discussion about this, but I don't know if there is standing consensus that not enough has been written about Jacob to support a stand alone article or not, as such I haven't tagged it for anything, but I will let the fine people of this project have a look. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:06, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Helen Norwood

Who voiced her on season 1 episode 4? Katey Sagal isn't listed on http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0636300/fullcredits#cast so was it someone else? 111.69.195.44 (talk) 04:02, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Greta (Lost)

This page redirects here, but nowhere is the character mentioned. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:19, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merging proposal

Am I the only one that thinks that List of Lost characters and List of Lost cast members should be merged?--Mazewaxie 12:25, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]