Nottingham derby
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 Flag of Nottinghamshire | |
| Other names | Trentside derby |
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| Location |  Nottingham |
| Teams | Nottingham Forest, Notts County |
| First meeting | Notts County 1–3 Nottingham Forest 1878–79 FA Cup (16 November 1878) |
| Latest meeting | Notts County 0-1 Nottingham Forest (Pre-Season Friendly) |
| Stadiums | City Ground Meadow Lane |
| Statistics | |
| Meetings total | 96 |
| Most wins | Nottingham Forest (40) |
| All-time series | Nottingham Forest: 40 Draw: 27 Notts County: 30 |
| Largest victory | Nottingham Forest 5-0 Notts County 1900–01 First Division (24 November 1900) Nottingham Forest 5-0 Notts County 1953–54 Second Division (10 October 1953) |
The Nottingham derby is the name given to football matches contested between Nottingham Forest and Notts County.
History
[edit]The two clubs are amongst the oldest football clubs in the World. County were formed in 1862 and are the oldest professional association football club in the world. Forest were formed three years later by a group of men playing the now largely unknown sport of bandy.[1]
The first meeting between the two clubs was a friendly on 22 March 1866. The match was a 0–0 draw and was probably on the Forest Recreation Ground.[1]
The first competitive meeting in the FA Cup came on 16 November 1878 and resulted in a 3–1 victory for Nottingham Forest. The first league game occurred on 8 October 1892 and resulted in a 3–1 victory for Notts County.[1]
The last league Nottingham derby occurred on 12 February 1994 and resulted in a 2–1 victory for Notts County. Charlie Palmer (or 'Sir' Charlie Palmer as he has been dubbed by Notts County fans) scored with just four minutes remaining and only ninety seconds after Forest had equalised. The date, 12 February, is now known to local fans as Charlie Palmer Day.[2]
The rivalry was resurrected on 9 August 2011, when the clubs met in the first round of the Football League Cup at the City Ground, with Forest winning a penalty shootout after the match had ended 3–3.[3]
The two clubs rarely meet as they are in different tiers of the league system and supporters generally view other regional clubs as more prominent rivals. However, recent years have seen incidents of trouble between supporters. In 2007, a 'friendly' match between the clubs saw violence erupt after the final whistle.[4] And in 2017, several followers of both sides were convicted of taking part in a prearranged mass brawl in a pub in Nottingham.[5] Another friendly match the previous summer also saw four arrests.[6] Trouble broke out once again at a pre-season 'friendly' in July 2022, with fighting between fans and stewards in the stands spilling on to the pitch.[7] The game ended in a 2–2 draw. The teams met again in July 2023 with Forest coming out 1-0 winners.
Statistics
[edit]The two clubs have met a total of 94 times in the League, FA Cup and League Cup. The two sides have contested games in a number of other competitions including the Nottinghamshire County Senior Cup and the Anglo-Italian Cup. The results and statistics from those games are not included below.[1]
| Competition | County wins | Draws | Forest wins | County goals | Forest goals |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| League | 28 | 23 | 35 | 99 | 114 |
| FA Cup | 2 | 1 | 3 | 10 | 11 |
| League Cup | 0 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 7 |
| Total | 30 | 25 | 41 | 112 | 132 |
League
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Notts County in the league at home[edit]
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Nottingham Forest in the league at home[edit]
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Cup matches
[edit]| Date | Venue | Matches | Competition | |||
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| Team 1 | Score | Team 2 | ||||
| 16 November 1878 | Trent Bridge | Notts County | 1–3
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Nottingham Forest | FA Cup | |
| 8 November 1879 | Trent Bridge | Nottingham Forest | 4–0
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Notts County | FA Cup | |
| 1 December 1883 | Trent Bridge | Notts County | 3–0
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Nottingham Forest | FA Cup | |
| 26 November 1887 | Trent Bridge | Nottingham Forest | 2–1
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Notts County | FA Cup | |
| 24 February 1894 | Trent Bridge | Nottingham Forest | 1–1
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Notts County | FA Cup | |
| 3 March 1894 | Trent Bridge | Notts County | 4–1
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Nottingham Forest | FA Cup | |
| 25 October 1977 | City Ground | Nottingham Forest | 4–0
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Notts County | League Cup | |
| 9 August 2011 | City Ground | Nottingham Forest | 3–3 |
(4–3 p)
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Notts County | League Cup |
References
[edit]- ^ a b c d Smales, Ken (2006). Nottingham Forest The Official Statistical History. Pineapple Books.
- ^ "12 February will always be 'Charlie Palmer Day'". 16 February 2013. Archived from the original on 10 July 2015.
- ^ "Nottingham Forest 3–3 Notts County (4–3 on penalties)". BBC Sport. 9 August 2011. Retrieved 20 October 2012.
- ^ "Fans face bans over pitch fights". BBC. 31 July 2007.
- ^ "Nottingham Forest and Notts County fans locked up over mass brawl in city pub". Nottingham Post. 27 April 2017. Archived from the original on 1 May 2017. Retrieved 3 May 2017.
- ^ "Four arrested at Forest v Notts County match". Nottingham Post. 23 July 2016. Archived from the original on 24 July 2016. Retrieved 3 May 2017.
- ^ "Video emerges of fans fighting with stewards at Notts County v Nottingham Forest". 27 July 2022.